What is the difference between a muff and a fumble

For NFL stats, a muff is a fumble. Brentastic Posted December 14, edited. Clearly, that's wrong, but we'll sort it out in the off season. Big Country Posted December 15, I still would like some official rule to be posted if possible. So far I have posted a digest from NFL. Digest of Rules Fumble 1. A muffed hand-to-hand snap from center is treated as a fumble. I also posted the following after a google search: If you do a google search for "nfl rules on muffed punt return" you will find plenty of past games where they ruled it a fumble.

Below is just one example. Thanks so much in advance, my fellow Huddlers!!! Grits and Shins Whatever the NFL calls it is how we score it. We are still waiting for commish and co-commish to decide what will happen. Thanks everyone for you input.

I will post the decision when it comes down. Posted December 17, Verdict is in It was ruled a fumble as per NFL stats that we agreed to use for website.

I'm glad that consistentcy was used vs. Flyeaglesfly 0. I agree with Balzac. Is it a fumble if the punted ball hits a blocker in the back? I don't think it is. Rovers 3. Posted December 17, edited. Edited December 17, by Rovers. Create an account or sign in to comment You need to be a member in order to leave a comment Create an account Sign up for a new account in our community.

Register a new account. Sign in Already have an account? Sign In Now. Recently Browsing 0 members No registered users viewing this page. Sign In Sign Up. Important Information. Batting the ball does not change its status.

Touching a ball not in player possession denotes any contact with the ball. It may be intentional or unintentional, and it always precedes possession and control.

You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2. You can leave a response , or trackback from your own site. Fitzpatrick pass deep right intended for C. Wright at CLE Wright to CIN 49 for 23 yards C.

Johnson at CLE Johnson to CLE 45 for no gain E. The only rules discussed in this post were Fumbles and Fumbles Lost, but Fumble Recoveries are a totally different event altogether. On Sunday Tony Romo was hit fumbled the ball and knocked it out of bounds resulting in a safety.

Is this not a fumble lost? He did not retain possession and points were awarded to the opposing team. You are commenting using your WordPress. You are commenting using your Google account. You are commenting using your Twitter account. This means plays like a dropped forward pass do not count as a muff. The are two main occasions in which the term muff is used in American football. The most common situation by far occurs on punt returns. During a punt return if any player on the receiving team touches the ball it then becomes a live ball.

This means that either team can grab the ball and whoever is successful in getting the ball then assumes possession for the next drive. When a punt returner attempts to catch the ball, touches it and fails to secure it this is a muff. This can also be referred to as a muffed punt.